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The E8 pattern (click to enlarge), Garrett Lisi surfing (middle) and out of the water (right)

An impoverished surfer has drawn up a new theory of the universe, seen by some as the Holy Grail of physics, which has received rave reviews from scientists.

Garrett Lisi, 39, has a doctorate but no university affiliation and spends most of the year surfing in Hawaii, where he has also been a hiking guide and bridge builder (when he slept in a jungle yurt).

In winter, he heads to the mountains near Lake Tahoe, Nevada, where he snowboards. "Being poor sucks," Lisi says. "It's hard to figure out the secrets of the universe when you're trying to figure out where you and your girlfriend are going to sleep next month."

Despite this unusual career path, his proposal is remarkable because, by the arcane standards of particle physics, it does not require highly complex mathematics.

Even better, it does not require more than one dimension of time and three of space, when some rival theories need ten or even more spatial dimensions and other bizarre concepts. And it may even be possible to test his theory, which predicts a host of new particles, perhaps even using the new Large Hadron Collider atom smasher that will go into action near Geneva next year.

Although the work of 39 year old Garrett Lisi still has a way to go to convince the establishment, let alone match the achievements of Albert Einstein, the two do have one thing in common: Einstein also began his great adventure in theoretical physics while outside the mainstream scientific establishment, working as a patent officer, though failed to achieve the Holy Grail, an overarching explanation to unite all the particles and forces of the cosmos.

Now Lisi, currently in Nevada, has come up with a proposal to do this. Lee Smolin at the Perimeter Institute for Theoretical Physics in Waterloo, Ontario, Canada, describes Lisi's work as "fabulous". "It is one of the most compelling unification models I've seen in many, many years," he says.

"Although he cultivates a bit of a surfer-guy image its clear he has put enormous effort and time into working the complexities of this structure out over several years," Prof Smolin tells The Telegraph.

"Some incredibly beautiful stuff falls out of Lisi's theory," adds David Ritz Finkelstein at the Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta. "This must be more than coincidence and he really is touching on something profound."

The new theory reported today in New Scientist has been laid out in an online paper entitled "An Exceptionally Simple Theory of Everything" by Lisi, who completed his doctorate in theoretical physics in 1999 at the University of California, San Diego.

He has high hopes that his new theory could provide what he says is a "radical new explanation" for the three decade old Standard Model, which weaves together three of the four fundamental forces of nature: the electromagnetic force; the strong force, which binds quarks together in atomic nuclei; and the weak force, which controls radioactive decay.

The reason for the excitement is that Lisi's model also takes account of gravity, a force that has only successfully been included by a rival and highly fashionable idea called string theory, one that proposes particles are made up of minute strings, which is highly complex and elegant but has lacked predictions by which to do experiments to see if it works.

But some are taking a cooler view. Prof Marcus du Sautoy, of Oxford University and author of Finding Moonshine, told the Telegraph: "The proposal in this paper looks a long shot and there seem to be a lot things still to fill in."

And a colleague Eric Weinstein in America added: "Lisi seems like a hell of a guy. I'd love to meet him. But my friend Lee Smolin is betting on a very very long shot."

Lisi's inspiration lies in the most elegant and intricate shape known to mathematics, called E8 - a complex, eight-dimensional mathematical pattern with 248 points first found in 1887, but only fully understood by mathematicians this year after workings, that, if written out in tiny print, would cover an area the size of Manhattan.

E8 encapsulates the symmetries of a geometric object that is 57-dimensional and is itself is 248-dimensional. Lisi says "I think our universe is this beautiful shape."

What makes E8 so exciting is that Nature also seems to have embedded it at the heart of many bits of physics. One interpretation of why we have such a quirky list of fundamental particles is because they all result from different facets of the strange symmetries of E8.

Lisi's breakthrough came when he noticed that some of the equations describing E8's structure matched his own. "My brain exploded with the implications and the beauty of the thing," he tells New Scientist. "I thought: 'Holy crap, that's it!'"

What Lisi had realised was that he could find a way to place the various elementary particles and forces on E8's 248 points. What remained was 20 gaps which he filled with notional particles, for example those that some physicists predict to be associated with gravity.

Physicists have long puzzled over why elementary particles appear to belong to families, but this arises naturally from the geometry of E8, he says. So far, all the interactions predicted by the complex geometrical relationships inside E8 match with observations in the real world. "How cool is that?" he says.

The crucial test of Lisi's work will come only when he has made testable predictions. Lisi is now calculating the masses that the 20 new particles should have, in the hope that they may be spotted when the Large Hadron Collider starts up.

"The theory is very young, and still in development," he told the Telegraph. "Right now, I'd assign a low (but not tiny) likelyhood to this prediction.

"For comparison, I think the chances are higher that LHC will see some of these particles than it is that the LHC will see superparticles, extra dimensions, or micro black holes as predicted by string theory. I hope to get more (and different) predictions, with more confidence, out of this E8 Theory over the next year, before the LHC comes online."

Comments: 563

  • Reading through this comment thread I have just noticed that the sockpupets come in groups with typical names from some countries. I noticed there are two with Portuguese names, then two with spanish names, then two with Irish names. Sure enough the Egyptian and English names are more numerous. I wonder why...

    Felipe
    on November 28, 2008
    at 03:29 PM
  • Perhaps supporters of M. S. El Naschie, or the great man himself, could more usefully spend their energy explaining why his PhD thesis, which his website claims was granted by University College London, is not listed in the catalogy of of the University of London. Can anyone provide any definitive proof that he was in fact awarded a PhD from the University of London?

    peter
    on November 27, 2008
    at 10:02 PM
  • Perhaps supporters of M. S. El Naschie, or the great man himself, could more usefully spend their energy explaining why his PhD thesis, which his website claims was granted by University College London, is not listed in the catalogy of of the University of London. Can anyone provide any definitive proof that he was in fact awarded a PhD from the University of London?

    peter
    on November 27, 2008
    at 08:39 PM
  • By his own admission Dr or Mr John Baez is a complete failure as a scientist but has made quite a career as an internet blog thug and character assassin. He can be assured of the deepest disrespect, contempt etc. of all genuine scientists, scholars and academics. The only thing he has achieved is a natural revulsion whenever one hears his name. In our opinion, is campaign against The New Scientist http://www.math.columbia.edu/~woit/wordpress/?p=461
    and his present campaign against Elsevier (.arsmathematica.net/archives/2008/11/11/elseviers-chaos-solitons-and-fractals/#comments) is nothing but ramblings for extortion of money and back handers for silence. That is what modern funding of mathematical science has produced.

    S. Logan
    on November 24, 2008
    at 08:29 PM
  • The Case of John Baez, Renate Loll and John Ambjorn

    Following Prof. Keyes comments, I read the site of John Baez. There is not a shred of a doubt in my mind that Renate Loll and her colleagues have enticed their publisher Dr. Baez to launch this vicious attack against Prof. Mohamed El Naschie. I cannot fathom that any respectable Professor in a respectable University such as UC Riverside could indulge in such character assassination. Has Dr. Baez introduced a new profession to science: scientific vigilantism and paid for scientific assassins. It is a black day for science and academia.

    D.Hume
    on November 24, 2008
    at 05:54 PM
  • It is obvious to me that the inverse coupling constant calculated by El Naschie is correct while that given by Nobel laureate Steven Weinberg is wrong. Printing errors or mistakes are common among the best of us, Nobel laureates not excluded. So there is nothing unusual about that. What is unusual or rather interesting is how quickly Mohamed El Naschie and Elokaby noticed the error. The value given by Weinberg in his book The Quantum Theory of Field, Vol. 3 is 17.5. This is the inverse unification coupling in case of super symmetry. Most of the values found in the literature are around 24. Mohamed El Naschie summarized these results in Table 5 of his paper On a class of general theories for high energy particle physics, Chaos, Solitons & Fractals, 14 (2002), p. 657. Using the perturbated equation of Weinberg, El Naschie and later Elokaby found that the value is about 24 so I can conclude from that, as did El Naschie, that there was a minor arithmetical mistake. However using the exact non-perturbated equation developed by El Naschie, the exact integer value is 26. I have not explained yet how he could have noticed so quickly that 17.5 is definitely wrong. To explain that satisfactorily we need to look into the non-super symmetric case. Weinberg gives this value on p. 247 of the same book to be 41. Now this is reasonable as indicated from the values gathered from the literature in Table 6, p. 658 of the above mentioned paper of El Naschie. Again El Naschie gives the exact integer value using his exact equation as 42. Notice that the difference between 26 and 42 is exactly 16 and the difference between 26 and 16 is exactly 10. Let us go on and note that the difference between 16 and 10 is 6 and the difference between 10 and 6 is 4. 4 on the other hand is either 2 multiplied with 2 or 2 plus 2. I am sure you have already noticed it is a Fibonacci Gross law starting with 2 and 2 as seeds. The 2 could be interpreted physically as the two-dimensional world sheet of string theory. When two world sheets interact together, they span the four-dimensional spacetime and then we obtain the string hierarchy of Heterotic string theory. I will not go into that. This is all explained admirably countless times in the equally countless number of papers which El Naschie has published but alas no one reads. That is how El Naschie noticed immediately that 17.5 cannot be right. In a very recent lecture El Naschie gave a highly interesting physical meaning for the wrong value 17 found by Weinberg but it will lead to far to start discussing this again.

    From all of the above I conclude that El Naschie has found a sound method, a model or a theory which ever you prefer to call it which can serve as an excellent additional tool in exploring the Planck regime and quantum gravity. It is better to discuss the contents of a paper, not the address of an Author, his affiliation and whether the post office from which he mailed his paper was near to the Editorial Office or not. We are paying a very high price for our advances in technology and methods of communication, particularly the internet. The internet has encouraged things like pedophilia and pseudo scientific blogs devoted to slander and character assassination. We have to learn to live with that and ignore and non-scientific parasitic phenomena associated with technical progress. In this sense I end my comment.

    Noyes
    on November 24, 2008
    at 05:51 PM
  • D.Hume
    on November 24, 2008
    at 05:37 PM
  • D.Hume
    on November 24, 2008
    at 05:33 PM
  • Dr. F. Tengelin was quicker than me or more brave than me. I was just thinking of saying the same thing. Let me make his statement more precise. Prof. Steve Weinberg who developed the electro weak theory and shared the Nobel prize with two others is the author of the most authoritative book on quantum field theory. In volume 3 of his book The Quantum Theory of Fields published by Cambridge University Press in 2000 he states on page 192 that the inverse super symmetric unification coupling of all fundamental gauge forces is 17.5. This value is given by his equation 28.2.19. Finding this result scared me quite a bit because I used Prof. El Naschie�s result which comes to 24.28. This is a large discrepancy. I repeated the calculation again and again but I always found 24.28 and never 17.5. To make things worse Prof. El Naschie noticed immediately that 17.5 must be a miscalculation and said that the exact integer value must be 26. That means 17.5 must be wrong and 24.28 is only an approximation to the exact value which is 26. He said it is obvious that 26 must be correct. He directed me to his paper in Chaos, Solitons & Fractals 35, p. 862 (2008) entitled Non-perturbative super symmetric quantum gravity coupling. I am desperate to know who is right and who is wrong? This result will not affect either the career of a Nobel laureate or the career of a well established professor but it could be devastating for me. I would be extremely grateful to anyone who could help me decide who is right, Prof. Weinberg or Prof. El Naschie. Please send me your answers as quick as possible to the address below.



    Ayman Elokaby

    Dept. of Physics

    University of Alexandria

    Egypt .

    Ayman
    on November 24, 2008
    at 05:25 PM
  • Readers of the Telegraph who are interested in the truth are urged go read the comments on the following two sites:

    http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=the-self-organizing-quantum-universe
    http://fqxi.org/community/forum/topic/107


    It is amazing, enlightening and shocking to read this stuff. It is unbelievable what Scientific American have published. You will see the connection between Garrett Lisi, Renate Loll, Jan Ambjorn, Nobel laureate �tHooft and the work of El Naschie, Nottale and Ord. You suddenly comprehend what John Baez has been doing all along and when you have got the idea, please give your comments. It reads like Agatha Christie.

    M. Weltspiegel
    on November 24, 2008
    at 01:58 PM
  • THEORY Of UNIVERSE FLUXON�RIO ESTRUTURANTE From the DENSE SPACE, and
    THEORY Of the ENERGETICIDADE and MASER.

    Author - Ancelmo Graceli Luiz.

    Ancelmoluizgraceli@hotmail.com
    Tel. 27- 32167566 Street Itabira, n� 5, Itapemirim Set, Rose of the
    Penha, Cariacica, -269, E.S. cep.29143 Brazilian, professor,
    graduation in philosophy and theoretical researcher. Published books
    ASTRONOMY, and WORLD Of the PHYSICAL INTERACTIONS.

    Collaborator - Marcio Piter Rangel.

    Presented work the SECT- Spirit Brazil Saint. E the Brazilian Society
    of Physics. Introduction published in the WEB for the Vestibule Brazil
    Factor - Channel Profile. In day 30.01.2008. If other theories with
    beddings and you formulate had had acceptance, why these will not
    have? Therefore, it possesss all the beddings and all the forms of
    calculations, and that the reality and the comment until today reached
    are confirmed with. With more than one hundred and ten formulas, the
    most varied forms of if calculating one same phenomenon, with more
    than two hundred beddings in all the areas of the modern physics.
    Also, with new forecasts inside of cosmology and astronomy.

    Presented the Magazine of Education of the SBFISICA. Soced. Bras. de
    F�sica. Brazilian Journal of Physics - SBFISICA

    PRESENTATION.

    The theories defend the power vital the holy ghost and on cosmo, the
    life, the mind and everything more, against the mecanicismo and the
    materialism. With forceful beddings on possibilities of as everything
    it possesss an origin and an aiming for the power the holy ghost in
    route the life, the harmony, the perfection, the improvement and the
    eternity in detriment to the chaos and the end.

    In cosmology the universe is defended that if structure as a stream of
    production and destruction of astros. In astronomy it is defended that
    the movement is produced by the proper energy of astro. INTRODUCTION.

    THEORY Of the ORIGIN Of the SUBSTANCE And the COSMO, And UNIVERSE
    FLUXON�RIO ESTRUTURANTE.

    This theory is the one that more is come close to the power of God.
    Therefore it goes against any form of chaos.

    OF THE ALMOST NOTHING EVERYTHING CAN APPEAR - EXCEPT GOD.

    The UNIVERSE Is An AUTO CREATION, HOWEVER, A WORKMANSHIP Of This
    TRANSPORT ALONE CAN HAVE the POWER Of the CREATOR.

    This theory goes of meeting to the harmony and cosmic eternity in
    detriment to the chaos and the finitude of the universe considered for
    the theory of the great explosion. While one enters in stream of
    disintegration and reintegration with little energy, others are born
    more distant from the aglutina��o of the dense space.

    COSMO ESTRUTURANTE And DESINTEGRANTE.

    Graceliano Model. The universe is constant and infinite stream.

    First part.

    THEORY Of the BUBBLE OF DENSE SPACE And ENERGY.

    While in the theory of the great explosion the universe if expands
    from a point of the space and a small amount of energy, and is the one
    only - OF OUTSIDE FOR INSIDE - In the theory of the bubble universe if
    it contracts from the dense space to produce the substance and the
    energy of some points of the infinite of the space, in a constant
    production of new universes in some points of cosmo. Or either, it
    contracts itself to produce the substance stops later forming the
    astros and if expanding for the maser. E is some universes in infinite
    points of cosmo in infinite phases.

    Of birth in the phase bubble of dense space - phase estruturante-Na
    energy phase, In the phase of substance and the phase of
    disintegration, unfastening and removal in the space for the proper
    maser of the density of the substance. E reintegration forming
    secondary from the material radiated for the elementary school.

    PASSES FOR FORMATION Of the SUBSTANCE, ELEMENTS, ASTROS And The
    UNIVERSES.

    Thus, the dense space if contracts until to be filamentoso - the
    diffuse substance arrives - dense substance - energy - diffuse cores -
    astros - nuclear fusing - chemical elements - of light elements in
    weighed - maser - reengrupamentos in new astros, secondary - it comes
    back if to disintegrate - and the process continues until if becoming
    diffuse substance.

    COMMENT.

    We do not feel the action of the dense space because we are in a
    universe in a phase that

    already it was changedded into substance.

    FORMULA FOR CONTRACTION OF DENSE SPACE.

    The dense space if contracts and diminishes of size to produce the
    substance, and if it gives in a contraction and infinite reduction,
    that can be calculated with formulates of the infinitesimal limit. But
    one it has all left, divided for all, thus infinitely.

    Dense space ED - total part p dense space if structuralizing. Thus,
    infinitely, until changedding into energy and substance.

    ED - P/ED� until arriving to be energy and substance.

    Thus, we have the formula for formation of the substance, energy and
    for origin of the universe.

    INFINITE UNIVERSES IN PHASES ESTRUTURANTES And DESINTEGRANTES.

    FIRST THEORY Of the ORIGIN And NATURE Of the SUBSTANCE.

    It was always looked by the philosophers and Greek chemistries, later
    for the modern physics an explanation for the origin, nature and
    essence of the substance, where the world at times was divided in form
    and structure, spirit, mind and substance, therefore I show the first
    theory of that the substance can appear and of that it is formed, that
    here is of filaments of dense space, always looked to the substance
    for the substance and dividiz it infinitely of the atom of the Greeks
    until the hundred of particles that they are catalogued today. Comment
    - no theory displayed until today obtained to give a recital from that
    it originated the substance. All leave soon of the estimated one of
    something.

    CALCULATION OF FORMATION OF SUBSTANCE And FOR COSMO ESTRUTURANTE.

    To be able of contraction of the dense space = amount of dense
    space/cosmological time = estruturante substance and cosmo and phases.

    CALCULATION FOR COSMO DESINTEGRANTE.

    To be able of disintegration = amount of substance, temperature,
    fusing core to estelar, maser and energy/cosmological time.

    Pd*[qm ]/t c.

    DENSE SPACE And SUBSTANCE, And ENERGY And ASTROS.

    Universe not formed from great explosion, but yes of space dense,
    space dense is all space that in it surrounds them, that we have the
    notion that it is a great emptiness, but is not, it possesss density,
    and of it the substance and the energy if they had originated to form
    the first astros, galaxies and accumulations.

    ROTATION And TRANSLATION Of the UNIVERSE.

    The expansion is false, is in the truth a translation and rotation and
    a minimum of removal.

    What we have the notion of a great expansion of the universe is in the
    truth the translation and rotation of exactly. Therefore, if it is
    infinitely old and had started if to expand at the moment of supposed
    a great explosion, the astros would be so distant ones of the others
    that nor its light would be capable to be picked-up by any type of
    telescope.

    The FORMAT Of the UNIVERSE.

    The disposal of the galaxies in disks with the systems of stars also
    in disk test that the universe is a estrutura��o process and passes
    for streams, therefore had appeared at one alone moment in a great
    explosion the format of the universe would be spherical, or either
    with all the astros in one same distancia of a center, and as also
    with the same translation and rotation.

    Comment. Already we have here a recital of the origin and of that
    material cosmo if formed. Beddings not displayed until today for other
    theories.

    The ENERGY PRODUCES the MASER THAT PRODUCES the REMOVAL MINIMUM.

    It has yes a minimum removal proceeding from the action of the maser
    and high temperatures, removal produced for the processed energy for
    nuclear fusing in the inward of the astros.

    UNIVERSE OF ENERGY ESTRUTURANTE. OR UNIVERSE OF CONTRACTION And
    DISINTEGRATION.

    The universe passes for two processes - first of the formation of the
    substance and the energy for the contraction of the filaments of the
    dense space.

    As of the formation of the astros, its processes of energy and
    production of temperature to the ratio that the substance if
    agglutinates, with the agglutinated substance are produced great
    amount of energy and temperature, giving sprouting the maser and the
    consequent disintegration of astro in the space. For that the universe
    is a stream of estruturante energy, where first if it contracts stops
    later if disintegrating and if moving away ones from the others,
    always in lesser portions.

    It is A STREAM WHY IF I CONTRACTED OF DENSE SPACE UNTIL the SUBSTANCE,
    OF SUBSTANCE IN ASTRO, IF IT DISINTEGRATES IN MASER, IT COMES BACK the
    REINTEGRAR-SE IN LESSER ASTROS And WITH LITTLE DI�METRO And ENERGY,
    THAT DESINTEGRAR-SE COMES BACK. E STREAM CONTINUES INFINFINITAMENTE.
    UNTIL IF BECOMING DIFFUSE SUBSTANCE.

    The same process passes particles and atoms.

    The PRODUCTION Of SECONDARY For the MASER And the ATMOSPHERE.

    Part of the maser if also transforms into atmosphere, that always goes
    to direct for the equator, where goes to form cintur�es of gases as
    it is the Jupiter case, or in a more advanced period of training the
    cintur�es go to form rings that is the Saturn case and Uranus, of
    these rings go to form small accumulations of gases, that always more
    will go to agglutinate themselves more and, where will appear the
    first rarefied cores, and the aglutina��o process continues, where
    the secondary ones start to appear exactly before if forming, as gases
    they already possess translation and rotation and if they move away
    from the elementary schools. Or either, before existing as astro the
    secondary one already develops its translation.

    TEST For FORMAT And DIN�MICA Of the ATMOSPHERE.

    This can be confirmed with the Land, where its atmosphere already less
    concentrates more in the equator and in the polar regions, proceeding
    from the magnetism of the Land and centrifuga action of the rotation,
    and that the atmosphere possesss proper dynamics. That it will be
    filamentar� until arriving to give beginning to a new satellite.
    However this is not for today. The MAGNETISM Of the ELEMENTARY SCHOOL
    SPEEDS UP the FORMATION Of the SECONDARY One.

    If it was not the magnetism and the centrifuga action of the rotation
    of the astros, its secondary ones would delay time not to form
    themselves. Therefore the magnetism and action centrifugam act in the
    production of the filaments of gases for the equator and in the
    production of these filaments in the esferifica��o process, where
    rarefied cores will appear, until forming new astros.

    E the stream continues of disintegration of the elementary school for
    maser proceeding from the energy production, for the production of
    atmosphere and aglutina��o in filaments for the magnetism and
    centrifuga action of the rotation of proper astro until arriving the
    esferifica��o, also through the magnetism of the gases.

    PHASES OF THE STREAM.

    1 - with the contraction of the filaments of the dense space to form
    the substance and after the produced substance if form in astros. With
    the formed astros they pass if to disintegrate as form of maser and
    temperature.

    2- the material of the disintegration comes back if to contract and to
    produce astros lesser, and of these other minors the process
    continues. This if confirms where the astros possess the spherical
    format. Therefore the rounding sample that had a slow process of
    formation through materials that had appeared of are for inside, where
    slowly for aglutina��o astro was if structuralizing. They confirm
    because the cores are denser and the Land is formed by layers and
    cores.

    In the case of the production of the planets for the Sun, the
    atmosphere nor arrived if to form, and the maser was soon if
    filamentando to esferificar and to appear the planets.

    INFINITE UNIVERSE In the AGE, the SPACE, And the PROCESSING.

    The esferifica��o test that astro was produced by layers of material
    of maser for juxtaposition - one on the other, for that the cores are
    denser, that were already proven in the physics of the atom. E the
    rounding test that took much more time this circular formation, then
    the universe is a much more slow and constant process that if can
    imagine. Thus, the rounding of the universe proves the theory of the
    stream and that all the universe of today did not appear at one alone
    moment, they are some universes in some phases if processing and if
    structuralizing, while some age for lose and energy processing, others
    they appear for the dense space. These phases if confirm for the
    current comment, thus the universe are infinite in the origin and the
    end, the space and its processing.

    PHASES OF THE UNIVERSE. UNIVERSES BUBBLE ESTRUTURANTE And FLUXON�RIO.

    1- Origin - universe bubble of dense space and bubble of energy. 2-
    Type - estruturante fluxon�rio, if contracts to produce the substance
    from the bubble of the dense space. Later if it after expands the
    contraction and production of energy, temperature and maser. 3- Form
    to exist - production processes energy. 4- Amount - some types in some
    phases, of the bubble until astro almost without energy. 5- Size -
    infinite in the production of new universes, the infinite in the space
    and the time. 6- Form - infinite and varied forms, of bubbles, gases,
    diffuse energy, dense and less dense substance, astros, rings, maser,
    atmosphere, etc. 7- estruturante of the substance and cosmo.

    MAGICAL CREATION - SUBSTANCE From The DENSE SPACE.

    Before if speaking of the creation of the universe, it must be spoken
    of the creation of the energy and the substance, therefore it was from
    the substance that appeared the astros.

    ROUNDING And ESFERIFICA��O Of the ASTROS.

    The esferifica��o of astros the test that,

    1- It was formed for a slow process to have the spherical format, of
    the the opposite it would not be.

    2- It was formed of minimum parts that had been if joust locating to
    form astro, of the the opposite would not have the round formation.
    One sees that while Saturn and Uranus possesss rings of gases in the
    route of the equator, Jupiter it possesss an atmosphere stack that is
    in movement in the route of the equator, where if confirms the origin
    of the astros for components of the elementary school.

    3- the astros are older of the one than if it thinks. E its core is
    denser of the one than the exterior part, and the planet Land is
    formed by formed layers on.

    4- Fiz a calculation for the age of the Land, however was taken in
    account only the removal, and not it time for the esferifica��o,
    that probably was very bigger.

    5- Test that the universe has its origin through very small elements,
    that had been if joining to form the astros, as minimum parts of
    maser, gases, light and leftovers of great temperatures.

    6- the universe is had There if forming for minimum parts, as energy
    and substance, of inside for exterior part is with the cores denser
    than the crust -. A much more old, round and infinite universe in the
    end and origin time, the infinite in relation its production, then,
    that it would never appear at one alone moment in a great explosion.

    MASER IN THE FORMATION OF SECONDARY.

    Thus, with the format of the astros if it has plus a test of the
    theory of the estruturante fluxon�rio universe. For compression of
    the dense space, and disintegration for the maser and temperature, and
    a new compression of this maser in the space, forming new lesser
    astros, as planets, satellites and comets. E the estruturante and
    desintegrante process continues producing asteroids and others that
    will always be disintegrated producing astros and lesser asteroids.

    Universes alone of dense space, gases, energy, diffuse substance,
    substance exist and astros and gases, light and maser, with this if it
    confirms the theory here supported of that the universe does not have
    age, therefore it is an infinite production and disintegration of
    itself exactly. E while some disintegrate others in other points of
    the infinite of the space starts if to form slowly for the dense
    space.

    If cosmo was produced at one alone moment, the astros would not have a
    spherical form so defined, some would be long and flattened others.

    ON The DENSE SPACE, SUBSTANCE And ENERGY.

    The energy exists in function of the substance, since its production
    until its carrier also for air, therefore the substance contains and
    produze the energy, therefore the energy does not have as to exist
    without the substance, and the substance if originates and is
    densificado dense space.

    SUBSTANCE And ENERGY = DENSE SPACE DENSIFICADO.

    It does not have as to speak of a universe that if it originates from
    a small ball in a great explosion, therefore which the origin of this
    ball, and gives where came the energy for explodiz it.

    The great explosion contains varies contradictions and lack of origin
    beddings, cause and effect.

    INTERPLANETARY And SPACE ATMOSPHERE.

    The interplanetary space is constituted of gas to one [ pressure of
    ten raised to less 19 terrestrial atmospheres ]. That is a route that
    the space is not an emptiness without density, pressure, and is not a
    vacuum.

    PLEA. If the gravitation attracted the astros, all the satellites
    would be plumb between the planet and the Sun, therefore the planet
    would hold of a side and the Sun of another one, and would be
    constantly in eclipse. Therefore that the dynamics depends on the
    energy and maser of astro. To see theory of the energeticidade and
    maser.

    THUS WE HAVE THE PHASES OF THE UNIVERSE.

    The filamentosa space phase of density. The energy phase space
    filamentosa. The phase of the materiality - chemical atoms, and
    elements. The phase of immense astros, with little density, and little
    maser. The phase of the aglutina��o, where the substance was if
    agglutinating, magnifying the internal temperature and the maser. The
    phase of the disintegration for the internal temperature and maser.
    The phase of formation of new astros for the aglutina��o of the
    expelled material of the maser of the first astros, thus we see that
    it is a stream and process of integration, disintegration and new
    aglutina��es.

    DIRECT FORMATION For The DENSE SPACE, And FORMATION OF SECONDARY For
    The FORMED SUBSTANCE ALREADY.

    The material that already became astro after does not come back to be
    dense space the disintegration, but this material if integrates
    forming new lesser astros.

    Thus it has two processes. 1- the process of direct formation for the
    dense space. 2- and the process for the disintegration of astro
    already produced, that it goes to reintegrate themselves and to form
    other minors.

    Thus, the dense space is an immense one all, as an immense jelly
    without definite form. The universe is a process of direct form for
    the dense space, and a cycle process, where some are disintegrated and
    part of its material goes to construct others. With this we see that
    the origin, production and time of the universe are infinite, and the
    system of production of universes is much more old of that if it
    imagines, in trillions of years.

    E that exists some types of universes, ones of dense space, field of
    energy without substance, field of energy with substance, universes of
    atomic cores, gases, substance and astros if disintegrating and
    integrating others.

    COSMIC EVOLUTION And EVOLUTION Of The CHEMICAL ELEMENTS.

    Thus, the universe is a constant production and of cosmic evolution,
    direct production and disintegration, and secondary production of
    integration in new astros, while the chemical elements go if
    processing and evolving.

    ON the REMOVAL.

    The universe did not suffer a great explosion to produce its removal,
    but yes, the removal is product of the maser, rotation and of the
    great temperatures, that stimulate the astros for front, modifying its
    orbit. Or either, the nuclear fusing, the production of temperature
    and maser produce the lowermost removal between the astros. For that
    it has a ratio enters the distancias of the planets and satellites.

    PLEA.

    If the universe had suffered to a great explosion alone the galaxies
    would be if moving away, and the lesser astros as planets, comets and
    satellites would not be if moving away, and the gradual removal proves
    that all the astros if find in removal ones in relation to the others,
    thus, all the astros if they find in removal proceeding from its
    energy, maser and external temperature.

    PLEA.

    APPEARANCE To the RED For the EFFECT DOPPLER For the ROTATION And
    TRANSLATION Of the COSMO.

    The front that the universe does not meet in expansion, but yes in
    minimum removal will be seen more, and what it is detected as
    appearance to the red nor it is this removal. Therefore it is
    insignificant in whom he refers to to the shift in the space, and what
    it gives the appearance to the red in Doppler effect is the shift of
    the translation and rotation of astros and galaxies in the space.

    REMOVAL FOR THE ACTION OF THE MASER.

    We see then that, the universe is a constant creation for filaments of
    dense space of new new substances and the cosmos for the aglutina��o
    of the casting and reintegrated materials already, while other cosmos
    more evolved if disintegrates for maser and high temperature, other
    lesser astros if they integrate with the material of that already they
    had been disintegrated and that they go to develop a next orbit to
    that gave to origin and initial impulse to it, for the maser and
    intense temperature. Thus one forms a direct production for the dense
    space, and a production for cycle of disintegration and integration
    for the disintegrated material, while the chemical elements evolve. E,
    while the universe if widens for the maser produced for the proper
    astros. E not for supposed a great explosion, therefore the removal is
    a process continues for the action of the maser, therefore that it
    decreases gradually and the initial impulse only tends to lose
    intensity. While the material universe if expands, the universe of
    filaments of the dense space if contracts, or either, it has two
    reverse situations.

    The maser is proceeding mainly from the interactions of nuclear fusing
    in the inward of the astros. Or either, the same phenomenon - the
    maser - that it produces the orbit and the dynamics of the planets and
    satellites, also produces the widening of the universe and produces
    new astros, and is the producer of the structure of them, and of new
    chemical elements. One concludes thus, that cosmo is infinite in its
    origin and will be in its future, as also he is infinite in the space
    and the new production of the cosmos, and new chemical elements. The
    process of slow creation goes against the process of instantaneous
    creation considered by the great explosion. To prove the displayed
    thesis above it is simple, is alone to evidence that the expansion if
    finds in decreasing progression. However as already it was seen, the
    universe if finds in production and removal and not in expansion.
    Thus, while one is disintegrated and gone to produce others in other
    cantos of the universe the dense space if it processes giving to
    origin the galaxies of space gases. Thus, the universe is a process of
    direct birth for the dense space, of already been born, and birth of
    born others from already. Everything occurs for a direct hashing of
    the substance in the origin, is a fluxon�ria hashing in the
    production of new chemical elements, new astros and new orbits. Second
    part.

    ON the SUBSTANCE.

    M = ED = and/t - substance is equal the solidiquicado dense space,
    that is equal to the energy divided for the time.

    The substance is made solid energy dense space, or either, the
    chemical particles and elements are in the truth the dense space if
    processing energeticamente and producing solidification. E in a more
    advanced evolutivo period of training. Thus, the substance passes for
    a evolutivo process, and the substance - made solid energy dense space
    - always meets in an improvement, and passes for a slow and unified
    process therefore that all the substance and the structure of the atom
    are equal.

    PHASES OF FORMATION OF THE ASTROS.

    Our universe did not initiate lowermost previous to a great explosion,
    but yes, infinitely great, entering in a contraction to produce the
    substance, passing for made solid energy that is the substance, it
    stops later structuralizing itself in particles, elements chemical,
    and finally astros.

    Or either, the universe did not form astros instantaneamente,
    therefore that the astros and atoms possess cores.

    First it is formed energy, later the substance and finally the astros,
    different of that it defends the great explosion.

    Thus, the universe passes of the contraction. 1- of the space for
    energy and the substance. 2- of the substance for astros.

    After the disintegration through the maser and intense temperatures.
    It passes to the integration, where new astros are formed from the
    material of the maser. Thus, the universe and a stream of production
    cycles and estrutura��o and evolution, through. 1 - Contraction and
    solidification. 2 - Chemical evolution. 3 - Disintegration, removal
    and dynamics of the universe for the energy and maser. 4 - E
    integration in new astros.

    E that the orbit, the dynamics, the removal and the disintegration of
    the universe are proceeding from the energy and maser, becoming the
    universe of flattened structure, where the astros already are
    structuralized and in gradual removal as he is ours, while others are
    to circulate and in formation through gases, and others with
    tent�culos as great galaxies.

    COSMOF�SICA and ASTROPHYSICS.

    PRODUCER OF ITSELF.

    The universe is an alive and dynamic system of production and
    estrutura��o, where it produces its proper energy for its
    functioning, estrutura��o and dynamics, being that the energy
    magnifies to the ratio that goes carrying through its functioning, and
    is a stream system, where the same interaction that produces the
    elements chemical, produces the astros for fusing. E also produces
    fields, maser, high temperatures, dynamics, orbits, structures of the
    astros, and the removal in the universe. Or either, it is a producer
    of itself, its structure and its functioning. Thus, it is a constant
    production of integration and disintegration.

    AGE OF THE UNIVERSE.

    With this, it can be deduced that the universe does not possess an
    origin determined in the time, much less in some place of the space,
    and it does not possess an origin determined in the estrutura��o of
    the substance and the astros that compose it. However, it has infinite
    age, therefore the dense space always was there and producing energy,
    substance, until arriving the astros.

    FORM OF BEING OF THE UNIVERSE

    Of contraction for the dense space. Of removal for the maser.
    Of aglutina��o for the material of the maser.

    The universe passes for streams while it produces the chemical
    elements in the interactions of nuclear fusing in the center of the
    astros, where produces energy when processing the physical
    interactions and to produce its structure of astros, orbits and
    dynamics.

    ON the MOVEMENT

    If the related movement this with the maser, high
    temperatures, and physical interactions in the inward of the astros
    that are untied in the dense space to develop its dynamics. Soon the
    movement is natural and dynamic, and varies as the situations of
    energy production where if it finds astro. E if the dynamics obey a
    stream, then the movement is dynamic, disforme and variable.

    ON The DENSE SPACE.

    Dense space produces the substance, while the produced substance
    already produces the astros and the chemical elements go being casting
    in the secondary stars and.

    ON the SUBSTANCE

    The substance is filaments of the contracted dense space, that
    go to structuralize the chemical universe in substance, astros,
    elements, maser, high temperature, and in the dynamic auto universe.

    ON the COSMO

    The universe is auto dynamic and while it produces the energy
    the physical interactions go being processed, and the maser acting and
    spreading the substance, the astros are in dynamics for the proper
    energy and maser, the chemical elements evolve and if they improve,
    improving the substance and structuralizing the universe, cosmo if
    contracts for the dense space, and if it widens for the action of the
    maser, then the universe is alive and auto dynamic.

    ON the TIME

    The time does not exist, what it exists is the timer of the
    memory marked for the functioning of the brain as conscience form of
    that happens between intervals of events. We can consider the
    secondary time as something, that it exists in function of the
    functioning of the conscience produced for the functioning of the
    brain. The speed of the timer of the man is the speed of functioning
    of the human brain.

    ON the REMOVAL And WIDENING Of the COSMO.

    Thus, the dynamics of the universe is proceeding from the constant
    maser, therefore that its widening if finds in decreasing progression.
    E the astros had appeared of the aglutina��o of the dense space,
    while the maser and the high temperatures disintegrate the astros.
    Soon in the future and this part and period of training of the
    universe where in we find them the astros will be more cold and
    lesser.

    Thus, the astros are untied and free in the space, and not imprisoned
    for presumptions fields, where the rotation of the galaxies is minor
    who the translation. While the substance appears of the dense space,
    where the astros are produced, others is formed in other points of the
    space, while the dynamics is common to all the astros and not only in
    the galaxies. Test of this we have in the solar system. With this we
    see that the widening is a constant production for the maser, and not
    for supposed a great explosion. Therefore the same phenomenon that
    produces the translation, rotation, orbits, also produces the
    widening, therefore that the removal is gradual decreasing, it grows
    gradually, however it has a percentage of decrease in the progression.

    The universe will tend if to waste and if to dilute in lesser astros,
    and with little energy, while in other parts it will initiate other
    universes with the material of the dense space. The universe possesss
    three basic forms of production 1 - structural, that it produces the
    substance and of the form, 2-other of action who gives to life the
    substance, that is the physical interactions, energy and maser in the
    inward of the astros. 3 - of production of new astros and chemical
    elements.

    ON the FORMATION And AGE Of the ASTROS Of The SOLAR SYSTEM

    It is confirmed that the asteroids are not perfectly round,
    therefore in its majority are a little flattened and prolongated. One
    confirms that they are resulted of expelled tablets of material of
    some planet or the Sun, being masses inteiri�a and produced of one
    alone moment, while planets and satellites are astros round, where if
    confirms that it had a slow formation of overlapping of components of
    its elementary schools expelled for masers. This if confirms that the
    spherical ones had taken more time to form themselves, and confirms
    the displayed theory here.

    Third part.

    COSMOF�SICA OF INTERACTIONS And ENERGY.

    The universe could not appear of a ball of energy or substance to blow
    up, therefore it would appear to the question, of where this ball
    appeared of substance, and how much time it was there before the
    explosion, and what it formed it.

    We see that the production of the substance and energy is a constant
    process of nuclear fusing, evolution of chemical elements and
    estrutura��o of new astros and galaxies in the space and other
    constant phenomena that form our slow universe. Soon, the universe is
    without beginning and end, in the time, the space, the materialization
    and production.

    The phase of the astrophysics and cosmof�sica, that is of the
    production of energy, maser and of the disintegration for maser and
    the integration of material with little temperature in the space, and
    where the peripheral astros had appeared.

    If the universe had appeared of a great explosion the substance
    already would exist before the universe, and this not and possible of
    being, what we see in the truth is that the substance is part of a
    slow process, as the formation of the chemical elements is slow, as it
    is slow and constant the formation of the astros and the proper
    universe.

    One of the forceful tests of the slow formation of the universe and
    its beginning of is for inside if closing on itself until becoming
    materialized, and that the astros are constituted of layers with
    greaters and minors densities, some layers ones on the others, and a
    gradual cooling until the inward of the astros. Soon, the universe
    would not appear of a point, of inside for is.

    STRUCTURES IN LAYERS.

    Thus, the universe for being a slow process, and of is for inside and
    done of layers, evidences in the rotation and dynamics of Saturn
    rings, as also in the structure of the atom, and in the structure of
    the planet Land, or same in the atmosphere of the Land and Jupiter.
    The substance and the universe are made of are for inside for the
    dense space, and the astros also for the material of the maser.

    A great explosion would not give beginning to the universe, therefore
    it was itself the case already would exist before the explosion, and
    what he would produce the structure and the energy to blow up.

    The chemical elements also weighed are products of a slow process of
    formation.

    PHASES - SOME UNIVERSES.

    It has some universes. Of bubble of dense space, of energy of dense
    space, and of the free substance in the space, and of the substance
    estruturalizada in astros and the maser and high temperatures.

    The fields, atoms, astros and proper cosmo as a whole are determined
    by the energy and intensity of the physical interactions where they
    meet as also the orbits, dynamic of the astros and atoms. Exactly the
    evolution of the chemical elements and evolution of the substance and
    astros and cosmo as a whole is resulted of the intensity of the
    physical interactions and production of energy.

    The stars shine thanks to the spontaneous nuclear fusing in its cores,
    where light elements are transformed into chemical elements weighed.

    We see in the universe that while stars diminish others blossom
    everything this if it gives in a slow process of creation and hashing
    in new elements and new astros.

    With this cosmo if becomes the infinite in its origin and in the
    production, we see that it has some types of older universes ones,
    other new and other different ones, that it is created by a calm God,
    constructing the cosmos, beings and souls for the good.

    PLEA Of the EXPANSION.

    What it gives an appearance to have an immense expansion are the
    translation and the rotation of the galaxies, in the truth the
    translation is immensely bigger that the removal between the astros.

    If the astros were if moving away straight-line for the age proposal
    until from the universe, all the astros would be so distant here that
    would be impossible to see nor the Sun, the more the red of Doppler
    effect. One concludes that the universe is not in expansion, but yes
    in translation and rotation, and a minimum removal billions of lesser
    times of that any translation.

    All the galaxies are if opening as a sunflower, or either, if moving
    away from its center, and in translation and rotation therefore that
    we have a notion of an immense expansion, however that is an
    appearance of the effect of the translation and rotation of the
    galaxies, therefore of the the opposite they would be infinitely
    distant one of the others, being impossible to register its same
    position or any form of light, even though of the Sun. A time that
    possesss infinite origin and constant production.

    Therefore we have notion of that all are if distanciando of the Sun,
    therefore with rotation and translation effect Doppler for red is
    registered with big intensity, and that it gives an appearance of that
    the Sun is in the center of the universe, therefore the movement is
    translacional and rotational of that of removal.

    If the expansion was product of a great explosion the galaxies
    infinitely distant and already would be parked in the space. Thus, for
    being possible to detect the appearance of the galaxies and its
    dynamics, it evidences that the universe did not originate from a
    great explosion and nor the supposed expansion is product of a great
    explosion, then the universe is infinitely old, and its supposed
    expansion is origin and product of its maser, and is braked by the
    dense space. E has left of that we detect as expansion is the
    appearance of the translation and rotation of the galaxies.

    With the time for the formation of the substance, with the time of the
    evolution of the chemical elements, formation of the astros,
    esferfica��o of the external structure of the astros, if see that
    the universe is infinitely old, then if the supposed expansion is
    related to supposed a great explosion would not give to detect the
    existence of the galaxies in the space, therefore they would be
    infinitely distant.

    As also, of where the substance would appear to produce a great
    explosion.

    The origin of the substance for the dense space, evolution of the
    chemical elements, formation and esferifica��o almost that perfect
    of the astros, layers of atmosphere and structure of the astros and
    the existence of the galaxies it confirms the theory of the origin of
    the universe for the dense space, the production of the universe for
    the physical interactions and fusing. E the dynamics for the energy,
    impulse for the maser and the physical interactions, as also the
    cosmic brake of the dynamics of the astros for the dense space. Thus,
    the universe was not produced at one alone moment in a great explosion
    and also it does not meet in expansion, but yes in a minimum and
    insignificant removal, billions of lesser times of that any speed of
    translation and is easy to visualize.

    If the planet Neptune has as many kilometers of removal of the Sun and
    it it developed today until how many rollbacks around the Sun and with
    that speed. This calculation serves for any astro.

    CALCULATION OF REMOVAL OF THE UNIVERSE.

    Removal in km of the elementary school/number of rollbacks on the
    elementary school * arc of

    distancia in km of the translation = the approach value of one removal
    astro since the beginning of its formation.

    Example.

    The ray of the Sun until the Land has 150.000.000 of km, being that I
    circulate it in rollback it has 3,5 times approximately this ray, and
    that the Land already gave 1.000.000 of rollbacks more than, or
    either, to calculate the removal of the Land, have that

    Amalt�ia satellite if evidences that it folloies with its translation
    the Jupiter rotation, as a son next to the mother.

    This in only comes to confirm them the displayed one until here, that
    the satellites if originate from filaments of gases of the atmosphere
    of the planets, and that the translation if originates together with
    the origin of the proper satellite, or same can be said that they
    before exactly of being one astro already meet in dynamics.

    The rotation of the elementary school espirala and condenses next to
    the equator the atmosphere, where of this espiralamento of gases goes
    to form new astros, that these gases already meet in translacional
    dynamics and variation and density in its form and structure.

    The gas that forms a spiral cintur�o if processes and moves for one
    alone point next to the equator, for two reasons, magnetism of astro
    and centrifuga of rotation, where it goes to start to give beginning
    to a sphere, that is the esferifica��o process that will become in
    astro. To if forming it it will be distanciar� giving condition other
    successive ones that they will come if to structuralize.

    Thus, the paths are,

    1-Forma��o of the atmosphere for the maser, and shift of this
    atmosphere on astro for the proper action of the maser.

    2-Espiralamento of the atmosphere for the rotation of astro and shift
    of the atmosphere, that if dislocates next to the equator.

    3-Esferifica��o of this spiral atmosphere with translation.

    4-A sphere beyond the translation and removal that already possu�a,
    also passes if to distanciar of the elementary school that formed it.
    E the process continues, while astro if moves away and translada, also
    starts to produce its rotation.

    Therefore that amount of translation, removal and rotation depend on
    all energy in processing of astro, that it goes to produce all maser
    of astro in the space. E therefore that when aging all dynamics tends
    to diminish, therefore already spent almost everything that could.

    FREE DYNAMICS, PROPER And DECREASING For the ENERGY.

    One confirms that the dynamics is proper of astro and proportional its
    energy, and that the astros are free in the space, and this freedom
    and maser make with that they move away themselves from its elementary
    schools. Soon, if they move away themselves for maser cannot be
    attracted.

    CONCLUSION.

    COSMOF�SICA.

    Considera��es.

    Tests of that the universe is processes of infinite estrutura��o.

    What test that the universe if structure for a slow process is through
    the esferifica��o of the astros and that the land to be formed of
    core and layers, therefore test that the astros are formed of
    overlapping of small materials that had been expelled by others.
    Therefore if the universe was produced at one moment for a great
    explosion the land alone would be formed by a inteiri�o tablet. With
    the esferifica��o and layers if test that the universe is billions
    of older times of the one than if it thinks today.

    E if is infinitely old and considering the speed and the appearance
    for the observed red, with this if it concludes that we would not see
    the sun and no star in the space, therefore the time that if finds in
    speed they would be infinitely distant, and would not be capable to
    observe none astro in the space.

    Considera��es on a theory of cosmology and astronomy.

    A theory of cosmology and astronomy must be based on the general
    universe, of the origin of the substance, of particles, origin of the
    chemical elements and its estrutura��o, processing, and evolution,
    nuclear fusing of the astros, maser, temperature, estrutura��o and
    structure of the astros, the universe as a system in evolution in its
    constitution macro, generality and micron.

    What it is the universe. It is dense space, densificada substance,
    processes and structure, streams and evolution, without beginning and
    end.

    The structure of the dense space. As the gases that are light,
    invisible and they float the dense space is millions of times less
    densificado.

    False hypothesis of the great explosion. Everything before blowing up
    first has that to be formed of some element, or some structure of
    substance or dense space, then the hypothesis of the great explosion
    is false.

    On the cosmological time.

    The cosmological time is the time that represents the energy and
    processing in a system of astros.

    Cosmof�sica.

    Universe of lowermost processes.

    What componhe and determines cosmo in its structure is its physical
    processes,

    production of particles and chemical elements and its evolution, in
    the cores where the fusing estelares happens, or either, the universe
    micron determines the macro and the generality, a system of galaxies
    alone goes to confide conforms the intensity of physical processes
    that are produced in the system. It will have chemical lights and
    forms and streams, components, fusing in agreement the general
    physical processing.

    Of the multiplicity of the universe.

    The universe is multiple, or either, is several in some periods of
    training of origin, processing, estrutura��o, stream and
    disintegration. It has origin for the density of the space that forms
    the substance, later the energy and during the process he forms the
    chemical elements and the astros.

    Of the stream of the universe.

    The universe if structure of are for inside [ for integration of the
    dense space ] after inside for are [ for disintegration of the
    substance ] for the processes and fusing of the substance and in the
    cores of the astros. It comes back if to reintegrate forming astros
    minors and with little energy, later if disintegrates in maser, and if
    it reintegrates in astro, and the stream and processes it continues
    until the substance if to become diffuse and with little energy.

    As example if it has of the dense space and the substance, of the
    substance to astro, the star that produces maser, that go to produce
    planets, that goes to produce maser and atmosphere, that goes to
    produce maser, rings and satellites, and the stream and estruturantes
    and desistruturantes processes continue infinitely until the diffuse
    substance.

    Where it takes the substance to evolve and to produce the elements
    chemical. Thus the universe is infinite and without definitive form.
    Thus, the universe if finds in contraction and internal widening, but
    not in expansion and yes in lowermost removal, if it finds in
    translation and rotation, estrutura��o, streams and evolution of its
    components. While some start its origin, others meet in streams and
    processes, while others already meet in the final phase that is in
    diffuse substance.

    Nuclear Cosmof�sica. Nuclear fusing.

    The nuclear fusing of the stars keeps for a good time the temperature
    of the astros, with this it makes with that the universe if processes
    slowly, and can keep its stream and evolution of the substance and
    chemical elements and helps it transforms it light elements into
    heavy, and goes to produce the energy and dynamics of the astros, for
    that secondary the most distant ones possess dynamic little and the
    orbits are more irregular. Or either, satellites of planets, planets
    of stars.

    Thus, the universe and its stream and estrutura��o if must its
    production of energy, as also the evolution of the elements and the
    dynamics of the astros.

    The energy production goes to also determine the layers and
    esferifica��o of the astros. Not expansionista and not stationary
    universe. Thus one confirms that the universe if finds in lowermost
    removal and not in expansion, and it does not meet parked therefore
    possesss rotation, translation, streams, evolution and other
    phenomena.

    Evolutivo. One meets in evolution in its structure micron and macro,
    of the elements to the astros. E if eternalizes as substance with
    diffuse density. He is not arched and nor straight. Comment. The
    theory of the energeticidade and maser that deals with astronomy will
    be presented in another text. With more than one hundred and ten
    formulas proving the two theories, therefore use diameter, maser,
    temperature, rotation and equatorial speed. Distancia E not use mass
    or gravitation

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    on November 17, 2008
    at 05:48 PM
  • Someone on this site said the other day that “El Naschie who is a student of W. Heisenberg took the idea of unit coupling of Planck masses to the Aether from another student of Heisenberg who is a professor in Nevada, USA.” These are again sloppy remarks and not very helpful. El Naschie is a follower of Heisenberg, new him slightly but was influenced by him greatly. However El Naschie was a student of Theodore Lehman and Alf Pflüger in the University of Hannover. He was instructed by T. Kaluza in mathematics but was never a student of Heisenberg. The Nevada professor is most probably Prof. Friedwardt Winterberg. He is a very interesting man indeed. He published most of his work in the Journal of Prof. David Finkelstein of Georgia Tech, USA. To state that the Planck mass gravitational coupling constant is unity is almost trivial. Prof. Winterberg stated this fact and developed a fundamental theory based on a Planck Aether hypothesis. El Naschie may have been stim ulated by it if he knew about it, but it is very far from El Naschie’s transfinite E8 theory and the golden mean scaling. What El Naschie has done however was to see that the 2-Adic expansion of 137 is 128 plus 8 plus 1. This was interpreted by him as the inverse coupling of the electroweak fine structure constant, inverse coupling of the strong coupling and quantum gravity coupling. Thus taking quantum gravity coupling to be unity is obvious, but 2-Adic expansion of 137 being unity is not obvious at once. This is the insight of El Naschie. He connected P-Adic number filed with fractals and fractals with the golden mean. At the end we have this magnificent structure called from E-8 to E-infinity for which sooner or later he will be recognized as the man who completed quantum field theory and unified strings and loop quantum gravity in a single mathematical structure, the transfinite E8 exceptional Lie symmetry group.

    Ferdinand Vollrath
    on March 31, 2008
    at 04:45 PM
  • Hi, i had another vision, this one was the most incredible !! I saw the equation laid out, looked so complex. It was the theory of everything!. I was in a mind altered state at the time (nothing illegal). Really awesome. This is 1st posting, will seed some. Just wondered if anyone's interested, got advice, where should i go with this info?. Who should i talk to ? Is it any good, seems when i check google everybody's already found it. Thanks Rob, Hertfordshire. Robbybobby1@hotmail.com I live 45mins from Cambridge, maybe i should try there ?

    Robert Beswick
    on March 27, 2008
    at 09:18 PM
  • Garrett Lisi, I did send you few emails asking about the connection between your work and that of El Naschie. I am extremely interested in your work and his and would appreciate your answer at your earliest convenience. Many of El Naschie’s papers are published in Chaos, Solitons & Fractals, a well known Elsevier Journal of quantum and nanotechnology with the highest impact factor worldwide in this field (2.5). A comprehensive paper which contains most of El Naschie’s ideas is: Average exceptional Lie and Coxeter group hierarchies with special reference to the standard model of high energy physics”, Chaos, Solitons & Fractals, vol. 37 issue 3, August 2008, pp. 662-668. David

    David
    on March 26, 2008
    at 07:00 PM
  • Mohamed El Naschie invited article for world year of physics in 2005 contains all the main ideas for the E8 exceptional symmetry group. Elnaschie used coxeter polytop in conjunction with Fuzzy Kahler K3 manifold used in string compactification. The paper is published in an Israeli journal in Tel Aviv by Freund publishing House Ltd. The journal is: International Journal of Nonlinear Sciences & Numerical Simulations 6(2) 94-97 (2005). The title is: On a Fuzzy Kahler-like manifold which is consistent with the two-slit experiment. T. Chen

    Tim Chen
    on March 26, 2008
    at 12:48 PM
  • How could anyone say, Elnaschie theory or for that matter Lisi’s theory when most of the work has been done by others! Take E-Infinity theory and you will find that Mohamed El Naschie has done little more than piecing the results of dozens of scientists together. The main idea of a Borel mix of different sets is due to the American grand master of physics J. A. Wheeler. The idea of a cantor set is of course due to George Cantor, the semitic Russian German mathematical genius and inventor of transfinite set theory. The golden mean Hausdorff dimension is a theorem of the Americans Mauldin and Williams. The golden mean number system is due to the Egyptian, N. Ahmed in Newcastle, England. The fuzzy kahler was suggested by L. Marek-Crnjac. The 26 dimensional polytop is due to Chinese Prof. Ji-Huan He. The quantum field connection was introduced by Romanian-American Goldfain. The 2-Adic expansion was discussed first by South American Carlos Castro. The Hausdorff dimension 4 plus golden mean power 3 was discovered by the Indian, Mary Selvam. The role of prime number of Poincare dedocahedron is due to the Italian, Gerardo Iovane. The holographic principle is due to Dutch Nobel Laureate Gerard ‘tHooft. The idea of scale dependence is due to French L. Nottale scale relativity. The random walk model as well as the label fractal space time is due to the remarkable English-Canadian student of Richard Feynman, Prof. Garnet Ord. The entire idea of E-Infinity for the resolution of the two slit problem is based on Feynman path integral. The idea of the platonic solids ….to Elnaschie is from his teacher W. Heisenberg. The idea of geometrizing physics is due to Minkowski and Einstein. Complex time was taken from Weyl, Wick and Hawkings. The idea of time complexity and bifurcation was taken from two of Elnaschie’s teachers, Ilya Prigogine and the outstanding English Engineering scientists, Prof. J. M. T. Thompson FRS. I could go on indefinitely but I will not. A lit tle bit humility and modesty is in order. Self centeredness, racism, nationalism and religious discrimination are the mortal enemies of science. E-Infinity is not a revolution. It is an evolution of physics to higher levels by the collective effort of the scientific community. I. M. Smith

    Ian Smith
    on March 26, 2008
    at 12:41 PM
  • I think I can explain how the golden mean of phi equal to 0.6190339898 enters into Elnaschie E-infinity and transfinite E8 exceptional Lie group theory. 1. E-Infinity spacetime is made of infinitely many elementary random cantor sets. The Hausdorff dimension of these cantor sets, according to a theorem by Mauldin and Williams is equal to the golden mean. 2. The stability of the dynamics of E-infinity is determined by KAM theorem. This theorem states that the most stable orbit is the one with a golden mean winding number. 3. The E8 Gosset which is 8 dimensional is made of two concentric 600 cells polytops each is four dimensional. These polytops are generalizations of the golden mean proportioned platonic solids. 4. Golden mean geometry guarantees simplistic dynamics. That means phase space area preserving or Hamiltonian dynamics. 5. The golden mean is the solution of the simple nontrivial quadratic equation for which there is no difference between union and intersection. This is the resolution of the two slit-experiment. 6. The golden mean binary system advocated in physics by the Egyptian, N. Ahmed at Newcastle Upon Thyne is the simplest number system. All the above 6 reasons conspired in recent time to revolutionize they way we do high energy physics. J. Sarions

    James Sarions
    on March 26, 2008
    at 08:43 AM
  • Many commentators and readers of this site and other physics blogs have repeatedly inquired about the real dimensionality of E8 as well as E-Infinity. Let me start by a fundamental difference between E-Infinity and all other theories of physics. In E-Infinity the dimensionality is resolution dependent. This is truly new in physics. In E-Infinity, the accuracy of observation is indispensable part of the fundamental equation. Once the energy is fixed say at that of the classical Garrett Lisi E8 then there is no problem in saying what E-Infinity sees as a dimensionality. Since E8 Gosset is made of two fundamental concentric 600 cells Coxeter polytops, the Gosset is eight dimensional. However, we have some 240 kissing points corresponding to the 240 roots. Adding the 8 dimensions to the 240 roots we obtain the dimension of the Lie algebra. Another sophisticated name for this surface dimension of the Lie algebra is the E8 manifold. Now in E-Infinity the 8 remains 8 but 248 is slightly less by a very small transfinite correction based on the golden mean harmony or in the terminology of El Naschie simplisticity. This is just the mathematical way of saying area preservation or conservation of phase space and consequently conservation of energy. Next take a bird’s eye view of the entire thing and you will see an ordinary 4 dimensional manifold if you are sufficiently far. This is the well known magic of cantor sets and fractals. The invariance of dimensionality is valid no more. It is all dependent on the accuracy with which one is probing space time. In his lecture in Abdusalam Aula in the centre of theoretical physics in Trieste, Elnaschie showed a fascinated audience how the manifold of all the exceptional Lie symmetry groups family transform by golden mean scaling to the Klein-modular curve of the particle physics ho lographic boundary of ‘tHooft and Susskind. Details of this analysis is given with beautiful colorful graphics in a recent paper in Chaos, Solitons & Fractals, vol 37(2008), pp. 662-668 which maybe found on line at www.sciencedirect.com. S. Sebastian

    Serge Sebastian
    on March 26, 2008
    at 08:40 AM
  • Someone once asked in the Wolfram Forum.com if anyone could tell him what are the elements (points) of El Naschie’s E-Infinity spacetime and which are the open sets in this manifold. Well this is a mathematician’s talk. I cannot answer as a mathematical physicist. However, I can answer as a simple minded theoretical physicist. The points are the Cantor dust. But these are transfinite “fractal” points. They are measure zero but they have non zero dimension. Some sets could be fate cantor sets. This is all not important. What is important is the Hausdorff dimension of the total core of the manifold. This is exactly equal 4 plus phi to power 3. That means 4.236067977 as explained repeatedly by Elnaschie. After that you have onion like Cantorian manifold with larger and larger dimensions and less and less probability. For instance 137 of electromagnetism may be seen as a dimension and similarly, 496 of super strings. Finally one finds 336 of Klein modular curve and the 548 equal 4 multiplied by 137 of Elnaschie’s exceptional Lie groups hierarchy. There are of course open sets and closed sets. However, we have also Clopen set which is both open and closed. Thus the most important elements in Elnaschie’s E-Infinity theory are the dimensions. The inverse of the dimension is normalized probability. The main tool of the analysis in Elnaschie’s theory is scaling which is both a generalization and simplification of the local gauge principle. In some sense Weyl gauge principle is at long last vindicated by the work of the school of fractal spacetime, namely Ord, Nottale and Elnaschie. Strangely this idea goes back to the greatest of the very great Richard Feynman as shown in an old paper by Elnaschie in which a letter from R. Feynman to Garnet Ord was reproduced. If I remember correctly, the paper was published in an Elsevier Journal: Chaos, Solitons & Fractals. Fred Minsk

    Fred Minsk
    on March 25, 2008
    at 01:02 PM
  • The eternal question is what is the relation between symmetry and elementary particles? Noether’s theorem states that every symmetry corresponds to a conservation law. If symmetry is broken, the conservation equation is violated. This means a little amount of energy is lost. This loss corresponds in high energy physics to a particle. In E8E8 we have as many particles as symmetries and therefore superstring theory starts with 248 + 248 = 496 symmetries. Lisi works with 248 of them and doesn’t need to invoke string theory. El Naschie on the other hand can use either the string model or the network model of Lee Smolin, Loop quantum mechanics. The crucial point in Elnaschie’s E-Infinity is the transfinite golden mean corrections. For instance, the exact theory requires that E8E8 have 496 minus a small amount equal to 0.18033989 squared which is 495.967477. Consequently, the inverse fine structure constant is nothing but this last value of alpha divided by 3 plus the golden m ean which gives us the exact theoretical value of E-Infinity namely 137.082039325. Elnaschie called that transfinite harmonization and likened it to composing a symphony where everything fit harmoniously. Seen in the light of the above, the connection to the golden mean proportioned platonic solids does not come as a surprise. The road from there back to E8 is clearly marked. The 600-cell Coxeter polytop is a 4-dimensional generalization of the platonic bodies. Taking two concentric 600-cells polytops, one finds the E8 Gosset. Finally, an action principle and a corresponding Lagrangian may be found by connecting the roots of E8 with the 240 kissing points of the same. These spheres kissing points are related to dense sphere packing in higher dimensional space. Thus our Lagrangian may be related to a maximal density principle. To see the perfect beauty and simplicity, let us recall that 8 and its inverse are 2-Adictally equal. Multiplication by 8 and 1/8 with 496 gives us the number of super Yang-Mills states and the number of elementary particles in the standard model respectively namely 3968 and 62. Both numbers are known to be correct although Elnaschie has shown that using the same mathematics at slightly higher energy the exact number of elementary particles is 69 rather than 62. In conclusion, we should mention that Lisi predicted 60+20 = 80 particles. Nevertheless, the standard model is not a single energy value but rather an energy range and in that sense El Naschie and Lisi are both correct. T. Lamont

    Tom Lamont
    on March 25, 2008
    at 12:31 PM
  • The common view and I am stressing the word common is that there is no justice in this world. If there were justice in the world, the beautiful transfinite equation of high energy physics proposed by El Naschie should have been long universally accepted as the best piece of handy work in theoretical physics since decades if not more. However, I see things differently and I think there is justice in the world except it takes longer to be attained. In general there is justice and the proof is that Leonard de Vinci and Monaliza exist. But there is also injustice and the proof is that Bush and Condoliza exist. It is Escher Engel-devil duality all over again which is tiling the world as Klein-modular curve of ’tHooft-Elnaschie hologram. J. Holland.

    J. Holland
    on March 25, 2008
    at 12:27 PM
  • I think in discussing Lisi and Elnaschie, the work of Maher based on the chaotic quantization of the German mathematician Christian Beck has been overlooked. Beck’s approach followed that of G. Parisi, ‘tHooft and particularly Elnaschie. However unlike the work of Elnaschie, Beck’s work is numerically and uses ad hoc potential. It is very interesting but for a mathematician lacks mathematical rigor. For more about this work, I recommend an article in Chaos, Solitons & Fractals, vol. 37, issue 1, July 2008, communicated by Prof. Dr. W. Martienssen from University of Frankfurt, Germany. G. Weibel

    George Weibel
    on March 24, 2008
    at 08:32 PM
  • It is pleasing to know that there is nothing new under the sun because Elnaschie’s theory and therefore also Lisi’s theory are a trivial extension of the theory of Reflection Groups and Coxeter Groups. Elnaschie’s famous formula leading to the inverse golden mean to the power of 3 and therefore a dimension of 4.236067977 is nothing but a special case of the Poincare polynomial for t equal the golden mean. Elnaschie himself acknowledged that in a recent short note published in Elsevier science direct, Chaos, Solitons & Fractals (2008), doi:10.1616/j. Chaos.2008.02.001. The paper is titled: Mathematical Foundation of E-Infinity via Coexter and reflection groups. People should read more and write less. D. Cohen

    D. Cohen
    on March 23, 2008
    at 10:11 PM
  • I don’t think it is for being a Moslem that the work of the great thinker Mohamed El Naschie has been suppressed. The problem is deeper. It is plain jealousy. This is one of humanities biggest mortal sin committed by all. El Naschie’s wealth and dashing good lucks have not endeared him to the bookworms. And to add insult to injury he is an Engineer. In Egypt, that makes him la crème de la crème. Add to that his wit and youthful demeanor at almost 70 years old and you could hear members of the so-called mainstream eating their hearts out. Those who love him however are the overwhelming majority. They are not only women but very highly respectable scientists; some of them are Nobel Laureates like Ahmed Zewail, Ilya Prigogine and A. Legget who seem to think very highly of him as transpired in various discussions in which I was present. G. Bretta

    Gilda Bretta
    on March 23, 2008
    at 09:51 PM
  • If you want to have a bird’s eye view of the work of El Naschie and Lisi, you just need to log into the site of SLAC in Stanford USA. The site is called SPIRES-HEP. Last time I checked it out, I found 106 papers listed for El Naschie on high energy physics and particularly quarks confinement. Rather surprising information and not known to me before were also found. The site could be found when googling with words like: El Naschie and Lisi or with El Naschie and the Nobel Prize in physics M. Momadi

    Mansur Momadi
    on March 23, 2008
    at 09:41 PM
  • Dr. El Naschie is apparently a prominent Aeronautical Engineer at least originally. I found one of his papers on a site for the American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics (AIAA). However, I did find that he is also at Surrey University and a CV is given on the site of ZoomInfor “Business people information”. There it is mentioned that 200 postgraduate students and college staff members attended his lectures and that he has been recently nominated for the Nobel Prize in physics. A. Ameer

    Ahmed Ameer
    on March 23, 2008
    at 07:25 PM
  • Science Discoveries Net, called it “El Naschie revolution in high energy physics” and a revolution it is. Almost single-handedly, with a little help from his friend Garrett Lisi, the two free spirited men turned the tables on the establishment. The sheer quantity of original ideas and concepts flowing almost constantly from his Egyptian brain is awesome: Cantor sets, P-Adic numbers, Exceptional Lie groups, Transfinite harmonization, Fuzzy Klein modular curves, Holographic principle, Descriptive set theory, Feigenbaum turbulence, Transfinite graph theory, KAM theorem, Complexity theory and T-like dualities are just a few of his mathematical tools kit. Mohamed was also sufficiently smart and realistic not to confront the establishment of high energy physics head on. He initially deflected his path and published mainly in two or three of the main nonlinear dynamics journals. Chaos, Solitons & Fractals was obviously his most preferred venue and is by now the most famous Elsevier Journal with an impact factor of 2.5 which is unheard of for a mathematical journal. Nonetheless, his work caused a stir and forced him to leave Cambridge after the death of his friend Prof. David Crighton FRS, the Head of DAMPT and subsequent departure of his teacher and mentor who brought him to Cambridge in the first place, Sir Herman Bondi who together with Gold and Hoile were the pioneers of the cosmological steady state theory. In a very short introduction to the Lisi-Elnaschie dialogue, JAKARTASS gave an objective view of the controversy. However, the best reading of the E8 theory I found is in a paper published in Chaos, Solitons & Fractals, vol. 37 (2008) 662-668 titled: “Average exceptional lie and Coxeter group hierarchies with special reference to the standard model of high energy particle physics”, available online at: www.sciencedirect.com. In particular the golden mean transformation of E8 to Klein modular curve given in fig. 3 of this paper is a genuine revolu tionary insight into high energy and quantum gravity physics which is destined to make history. A final tip: when Googling for Mohamed El Naschie, write only El Naschie. He spells his name in different ways, so you have to try several times. His real Arabic surname is Alnashaee. A.Donnelly

    Alexander Donnelly
    on March 23, 2008
    at 07:22 PM
  • As I see it the work of Elnaschie is much deeper than just the E8 symmetry of Lisi. Elnaschie asks a deep question similar to that of Albert Einstein and those who are similarly disenchanted by quantum mechanics, namely is quantum mechanics a complete theory? Elnaschie answered this old question in a novel way by saying that both quantum mechanics and Newtonian mechanics are unified in a deeper theory: that of nonlinear dynamics and chaos. Since cantor sets and fractals constitute the geometry of chaos Elnaschie used it to model spacetime. From there everything else follows. Those who do not understand the basic principles of nonlinear dynamics such as the three body problem, non-integrability, Poincaré resonance, period doubling and Poincaré recurrence could not possibly understand Elnaschie’s work.

    Mark O Connor
    on March 20, 2008
    at 12:22 AM
  • I was mildly horrified by the startling comments of Nobel laureate Prof Brian Josephson posted to this cite on November 15th, 2007. Brian, who is a Cambridge, England professor and is well known to me stated in no ambiguous terms that the string theoretists who run the physics preprint archive have the nasty habit of blocking submissions of papers advocating alternative approaches like that of Garrett Lisi and his colleagues dealing with E8 and E-infinity. I heard this before many times from a host of rather serious scientists. However coming from a Nobel laureate and a Cambridge professor, this is altogether something else. If true, it is scandalous. In fact it borders on criminality and it warrants a criminal investigation for misuse of authority. In this context I am reminded of the witch hunt conducted against an ex-Cambridge theoretical physicist which continues until this day. The disgraceful episodes started after the departure of a powerful Head of Department who protected the said professor. The main crime of the professor was that he advocated a non-continuous spacetime made of uncountably many discrete points which effectively solved most contradictions in super strings. If all this is true, and of course I cannot say for sure that it is one hundred percent true, then I regret that I opted to become a scientist thinking that this community has a different set of values based on ethics, truthfulness and fairness. J. Hutchinson

    J. Hutchinson
    on March 10, 2008
    at 11:22 PM
  • An important but not that well-known hard core mathematical result in p-Adic quantum mechanics is the following: A p-Adic number field is a homomorphism of a Cantor set. In a paper entitled “A few hints and some theorems about Witten’s M theory and T-duality” published in 2005 in an Elsevier Journal for nonlinear dynamics and chaos (vol. 25, pp. 545-548), M. Elnaschie developed a theory based on the above which amounts to a quantum gravity unification. The core idea is like usual very simple. In p-Adic theory a large number maybe very small and vice versa. For instance 137 could be shown to be equal to unity in the p-Adic Cantor sense. Said differently, the very large can meet the very small. In the words of Elnaschie, it is: “Similar to Friedrich Kekule’s vision of a serpent which caught its own tail” Therefore one surmises that the topology of a cantor-set like spacetime is behind many Witten-like dualities of the T-type. It may well be that extreme order and extreme disorder are related in a similar way. This is probably the rationale behind Elnaschie proposal to derive the pattern of the E8 Gossett from the principle of maximum entropy. The physical idea is clearly related to that of maximum sphere backing density or sphere kissing numbers where the kissing number is equal to the number of roots. It is thus tempting to see Elnaschie dense sphere packing as a substitute for a Lagrangian and an action principle. J. Claude

    Jean Claude
    on March 10, 2008
    at 04:23 PM
  • Mohamed was evidently a student of Heisenberg and seems to have used some of the work of another student of Heisenberg without giving him due credit. The professor in question is in Nevada, USA. He introduced the Planck Aether theory and found the Planck particles-coupling to be unity. This is a crucial result which Elnaschie used to derive Newton’s dimensionless constant as well as proving quark confinement. J. Meyers

    Josh Meyers
    on March 10, 2008
    at 10:11 AM
  • It is not important how many papers you publish or even how much you know. Important is only how important and original these papers are. El Naschie has written in the last 2 years about 2 papers every week. True there are a few excellent papers coming from him recently. But many of his earlier papers are completely incomprehensible to me. F. Gustavo

    Federico Gustavo
    on March 10, 2008
    at 10:09 AM
  • Mohamed Elnaschie has been writing one original research paper every week for the last three years. I made this calculation myself. That makes him either a Poincaré-like genius or a mad man. Maybe he is both. J. Carlos

    Juan Carlos
    on March 09, 2008
    at 09:46 PM